Paleo?

[Dr Spouse]

Ooh I've just found this link on the caveman forum - someone who really wants to live like a caveman in ALL respects.

[Rosa]

On that caveman forum once every posted photos of their fingernails so show how great their diets were for them

[DillyDally]

I think mammoths are vegetarian (since elephants are) but the sabre tooth tigers are not that pleasant.

I was wondering if they were herbivores

dilly - yet again you have a fair point! why eat like a caveman when most of them probably never lived to 20! (she says having even less idea than you do about it all!)

According to some other forum I've found (there's loads of them Who knew?!) 30 was a ripe old age back then

[DillyDally]

I'm liking this quote, from someone called Andrew Fenton, on the eG forum, which seems to be something to do with cuisine and cookery :-

"I suspect that for a modern human, there are any number of healthy and successful ways of eating, and that most of them are based on boring, straightforward things like encouraging moderation and exercise and discouraging highly processed foods."

Which is exactly what I think, and what I do So it must be right But I did just eat a fun sized Mars Bar

[Dr Spouse]

Average life expectancy is not a good guide though, but I think it is probably fair to say not many people lived to a ripe old age.

These days in some countries many babies die in infancy but once you get to 20 or so, you can expect to live to 60 or 70.

But in caveman days I would think that infections (that kill off the babies) were not quite as common (because people lived in smaller groups), though you can catch a lot of things from improperly cooked food. But I do know that the skeletons are mainly of younger people - so probably 40-50 being a "good age" with an average life expectancy of 30-40.

[Dr Know]

Ooh I've just found this link on the caveman forum - someone who really wants to live like a caveman in ALL respects.

Good grief That's why French men are such horny sods - all the Steack Tartare I'm going to ban my dh from eating raw meat

[bisy backson]

Bisy I think you are spot on with the "you are what you eat" thing, that is what has brought me to this kind of diet, I had a "healthy" diet before but in truth I was eating a lot of "diet" food and processed stuff without even thinking about it.

see, in all serious this is the kind of thing that really bothers me.

I was as well, and it never ever occurred to me that i was poisoning myself from the inside. I actually think its 'better' for you to eat the full fat unchemicalised version of things (particularly yoghurts - that's a real bug bear of mine at the moment) and apart from anything else, you feel a lot fuller and more satisfied after a small tub of full fat greek yoghurt than a small tub of fat free artificial fruit sh*t.

your organs must be working harder to process artificial stuff, and that's why you feel so tired as your body is so busy trying to get rid of all the shit you're putting in it there's no time for it to just 'be' and recover. if you know what i mean (not trying to sound w*nky here but...) you know if your car engine was clogged up with grease and grime it would be sluggish - so why wouldn't your body be the same?

[rant] there should be more public education on things like that than on trying to get people to eat 'low fat'. cos then 'people' start to think that things like bananas and avocados and almonds are 'fattening' - when a lot of them are amongst the healthiest foods you can eat.[/rant]

and another thing - people should be more educated to realise that losing weight and being 'healthy' is damn hard work and they're going to have to put in the hard graft and stop looking for quick fixes and fad diets (not blaming the people, just blaming the educators) and that except for the lucky minority that can allegedly eat whatever they want, most people who have enviable bodies have worked their @rses off to get them and should stop pretending that there is a 'secret' or a 'quick fix' cos there isn't - unless that secret is discipline, consistency and honesty!

bbxx

[bisy backson]

"I suspect that for a modern human, there are any number of healthy and successful ways of eating, and that most of them are based on boring, straightforward things like encouraging moderation and exercise and discouraging highly processed foods."

now why can't i meet (tall, dark, handsome, fit) man that thinks like that!

and dilly, for the mars bar - have you not been listening to a word any of us have been saying???

bbxx

[DillyDally]

Sorry Miss It was my one little bit of chocolate, won't have anymore for a few days

I agree with you about the low fat 'diet' foods - the same friend, before she went all Paleo, was eating low fat yoghurts. Which don't even taste like yoghurt They're a bit like eating a pot full of nothing, laced with artificial sweetener

[Dr Spouse]

But Mars bars are all natural!

(no, seriously, everything in them is derived from a plant or an animal - it's not like my Diet Coke addiction).

We eat artificially sweetened yoghurts because Mr S has diabetes (likely brought on by a virus in his childhood destroying his pancreas - so, something that would have happened in caveman days) and can't have too much sugar. In caveman days he would have died too, unless someone clever had worked out that fruit was bad for him too. So we're pretty happy someone developed artificial sweetener.

A major cause of death in caveman days too was probably tooth decay - either cracked teeth due to bones/stones followed by an abscess, or decayed teeth from eating fruit.