I wanna post my diary

[flouncing queen]

i wanna knowif someone would read my diary of today so far and tell if what jake has been doing is normal or not. would someone mind giving it a read if i post it?

thanks :flowers:

[lazymummy]

Normal in what sense? Is it Jake who has Asperger's? I have experience of the autistic spectrum, so will help if I can?

[Katiekipper]

I have a 'normal' 6.5 year old and an 11 yr old with mild behavioural spectrum issues, so I'm happy to read and let you know what I think.
KAte x

[flouncing queen]

Normal in what sense? Is it Jake who has Asperger's? I have experience of the autistic spectrum, so will help if I can?

yeah he is aspie, i just wanted to know the day i have had if a normal child of his age is doing the same sort of things or if its the ASD ADHD showing alot more and we need to take him back to CAMHS, which someone will return my call on the 19th unless any major problem in mean time.

i will post today in sperate post underneath as its long so far and its not 6pm yet :wink:

thanks both of you :flowers:

[flouncing queen]

jake has woken today at 7:10 a normal day i have to wake him at 7:30.

allowed to sit and watch tv downstairs till 7:30 as he is up early.

bath time, jake time for bath JAAAAAAAKEEEE getin the bath. no f*ck off i am not dirty, jake get in bath please, no i am NOT GETTING IN BATH. i hate you. i hate the bath. i am not geting in bath. 7:45 eventually gets in bath, after throwing clothes and nappie on floor. Get out bath at 7:55 jake please get out bath, jake get out the bath JAKE WILL YOU GET OUT THE BATH NOW. 8:05 gets out bath, jake dry yourself please here is the towel. he stands there shivvering, jake dry your self now.

what do you want for breakfast jake? nothing, jake you need to eat before school what do you want? nothing i am not hungry, i hate you. eventually i decide on toast and a cerail bar. and also put his protein shake in a glass for him.

grabs william and carries him out of kitchen, asked to put him down 4 times, he throws him at me instead of putting him down.

struggle to get him to take ritalin but does do it. he gets dressed well puts pants socks trousers n t-shirt on, no shoes or jumper. i allow him onplaystation while i bath and get dressed, there he stays till 8:45 i have been telling to get off playstation sinse 8:35. 8:50 and we are meant to be walking out the door, instead i am shouting at him to get his shoes and jumper and coat on. we are out by 8:55.

oh and still hasnt drunk the shake i had to chuck it aweay in the end

walks to school resnobly ok, just keep asking what we would be doing after school as he likes to plan ahead and know every detail of what we are doing and when.

at school yay !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

collect jake from school at 3:10, but i arrived at 3:15 this is coz he likes to rush out of school and can quite often hurt other people or him self if there is more then just him trying to rush, so i felt it was better to be slightly late then less damage to other people. he come out threw his book bag and lunch bag on william in the buggie and thumped me, YOUR LATE! why are youalways late i hate you! i explain for the 100th time that its better for him when he isnt pushing to get out of school and like to be a little bit late.

he has asked if ryan ( his brother) can come round and see us after school, after lots of umming and arrring me and nanny say yes ryan can come round. but i had to walk to coop to get something for dinner, this made problems coz he couldnt go straight home. they both play a game walking along but ryan wants to stop and jake does not, so jake starts to hit ryan and then they are both fighting. he tried to cross 1 road without stopping and i had to grab him. he didnt like this as jake knows best and he knew the road was ok so he started having ago at me and punched me. we make it too coop in more or less 1 peice. going round coop he is asking for a drink, chocolate and cheese. i say no he could ahve somthing when we get home as i only had enough money to buy stuff for dinner and not snacks aswell. he started jumping up and down but more like a 2 year old having a tantrum would do, we carry on and ignore him he starts grabbing the buggie and pulled soo hard on the buggie i thought at one stage he was gonna pull the handle off. he asked 1 last time about food i say no so he kicked me and walked off and stood by the door.

constantly all the way down the road on way home he is trying to brake the buggie, swear at me and he then started to hit william in the buggie as i would not give in and give him junk before getting home. when we got halfway home he got bored with that and started head butting me, this went on for a good 10 mins till we were nearly home.

unfortunatly the neighbours boy was on the stairs out side, and he started making fun of jake as he normally does, jake then started shouting at him and trying to kick him. i took him inside. they have both been playing on playstaion quite happily for 30 mins, but now jake has come down coz ryan has sent him down to ask for food, jake wouldnt normally ask for food. but i as i said he could have a packet of crisps and nothing else as i am gonna put dinner on in a min, he started punching me and then grabbed william and chucked him on the sofa. gone back up to play on playstation.

[lazymummy]

From a quick read, I would say that most of it is normal kid behaviour, just made worse by his autistic/aspie tendencies! The autistic tendencies are just magnifying normal 'naughty' behaviour and making it more extreme. Has his behaviour changed a lot recently, or is this pretty much normal for Jake?

[Katiekipper]

That sounds normal to me. My Ds1 is the same with the having to know what is happening after school/that evening/tomorrow etc and the badgering me in shops for things to eat.
Is the hitting and kicking getting worse? Cos that's the only thing that would worry me, but most AS/spectrum kids have trouble controlling agression and anger. My Ds1 has tantrums and screams alot, he's always been verbal rather than physical, so what Jake is saying sounds alot like my Ds1!!
He took his ritalin which was good, did the teachers say anything? Do you know if he had a good day at school? As you weren't 'collared' at the gates I assume he did!!
It seems to me his bad times are the same as all childrens bad times, waking up and getting dressed, a nightmare for everyone, and after school. And he did go and play PlayStation calmly and only became disruptive becuase Ryan sent him downstairs, which upset his routine probably explains why he punched you and grabbed William.
He sounds like he's doing well, and you got to school on time which is something some parents of Aspies never manage becuase of the battles in the morning!!
My 'normal' DS2 has had days like that, maybe less tantrummy, but still the "I hate you" and refusing to eat his brekkie or crying over sweets in the shop, hitting his brother etc, so Jake doesn't sound much worse really.
You are doing a fab job by the sounds of it!! :higgies:
Kate xx

[flouncing queen]

this is what i was wondering if he isnt really as bad as i think he is, although i know he has problems. but am i probably half the problem, in the sense i am tired at the mo and not sleeping, and maybe he seems to be worse coz of it. i dunno its soo hard to tell, thats why i thought if i keep a diary over a few days and then take it with me to CAMHS when we eventually do go, and maybe i need a bit of time out too.

as for school he is a model student :shrug: clearly as the ritalin wares off he comes home. he is trying to eat a bitof bread but he is rocking, jumping up and down on the chair. stuff the whole thing in 1 go, he really cant sit still.

am i expecting too much from a 7 year old ASD ADHD or not.

[flouncing queen]

From a quick read, I would say that most of it is normal kid behaviour, just made worse by his autistic/aspie tendencies! The autistic tendencies are just magnifying normal 'naughty' behaviour and making it more extreme. Has his behaviour changed a lot recently, or is this pretty much normal for Jake?

yes he has got worse, but i had thought it was down to christmas and the excitment of it all, but apperantly not he has just gone down and down but its been quite slow.

[Katiekipper]

[quote=flouncing queen]thats why i thought if i keep a diary over a few days and then take it with me to CAMHS when we eventually do go,
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Thats a GREAT idea and the staff will thank you for it! It's impossible to remember everything at meetings like that, so the diary will be really valuable.

You aren't expecting too much, the more you expect, the more he'll achieve. It's very easy to say "He's got Aspie, thats what he does" and then he'll make less progress. As long as you remember that he will behave differently, and keep in the front of your mind why he acts like he does, and what things look like from his perspective, then you won't go wrong!
It's a challenge, but like i said before, you're doing a fab job, and he's lucky to have a Mum who cares so much and wants to do all that she can for him!!!
Kate x

[Katiekipper]

yes he has got worse, but i had thought it was down to christmas and the excitment of it all, but apperantly not he has just gone down and down but its been quite slow.

Don't forget, all children go downhill at this time of year, it's gloomy, there's no sun, nothing fun like Christmas to look forward to.....it's all an anti climax. My kids have been horrors this last few weeks!

Kate xx

[lazymummy]

Don't forget, all children go downhill at this time of year, it's gloomy, there's no sun, nothing fun like Christmas to look forward to.....it's all an anti climax. My kids have been horrors this last few weeks!

Kate xx


:nod: :nod: :nod: Mine too-I totally agree with Katie! I think that's just kids, regardless of Aspie or whatever!

[flouncing queen]

i think its everyone in genral i am fed up its gloomy christmas was a right bummer and so i can see why he is like this.

thanks for replys, just have to keep an eye and then hope we can be seen

[Cheaky*Monkey]

Don't forget, all children go downhill at this time of year, it's gloomy, there's no sun, nothing fun like Christmas to look forward to.....it's all an anti climax. My kids have been horrors this last few weeks!

Kate xx

I toatally agree with this my have been shits since just before christmas,Not sure about the condition jake has got but if your worried then contact someone for help dont suffer on your own what about what kate said last night i know she is great with stuff like that.Hope things get better for you xx:higgies: :higgies:

[flouncing queen]

i am waiting for the dr to return off holiday, as apperantly she has only left to go part time and when i say part time i mean once a month in the building to do paper work and sort fone calls. but she is on holiday till 19th but will ring me, but if things get worse then i can ring and talk to the duty dr before the 19th. i have left messages with all the people that i needed too so just waitng now for themto return my calls or i shall be ringing again at the end of next week to remind them i still exsist.